Thursday, September 8, 2005

Since Duchamp, (Rose c'est la vie) a new paradigm was born. Art is anything you make (me-see within a certain mindframe). Duchamp put it inside the white cube, an art/microscope of sorts. As the biologist (or a curious child with a toy) we look inside it. The attitude is one of: curiosity, surprise, wonder, awe, or just indifference, or rejection (rejection is fine, it's a reaction to my own tastes). "This is bullshit, not art," but that will not make it non-art. It's art already. It has been for the past 90 years. The discussion is meaningless. Let's be pragmatic and move on, to a different more promising place. To the "I don't like it" or "I don't really care"-place. Rejection, indifference. Did I say before "a reaction" to my own tastes? One more question: Can tastes change?
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Below, some work by Duchamp, and his good disciple, Damien Hirst. You may hate Hirst, but he is a good disciple. See you tonight, and yes, after 106, let's go gallerying.

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anita said...

yes, they sure can! tastes change all the time. i know i've experienced a change of taste throughout my entire "career."

Josh said...

tastes definitely change. my tastes have changed because of a better understanding of abstract art and dada, which i previously hated both. now, i understand their intention and their importance to the art community.

question: triff, can you explain the concept behind "glass" and what role the chocolate grinder and the figures play in the piece? also, is the legend about the cracked glass true or myth?

A.T. said...

Glass is about a department store window in size. Duchamp mixes some isolated components, such as the chocolate grinder and the glider, shown with painstakingly convincing perspective. In a 1913 note, Duchamp writes: “No obstinacy, ad absurdum, of hiding the coition through a glass pane with one or many objects of the shop window. The penalty consists in cutting the pane and in feeling regret as soon as possession is consummated, Q.E.D.” Some people call Glass a love machine, some call it a machine of suffering. In her essay on Bride, Janis Mink writes: “Its upper and lower realms are separated from each other forever by a horizon designated as the bride's clothes. The bride is hanging, perhaps from a rope, in an isolated cage, or crucified. The bachelors remain below, left only with the possibility of churning, agonized masturbation.” I don’t like to read too much into them, other than it contains many Duchampian elements. Through the years, D. kept sort of appropriating himself over and over to recreate his work. Duchamp once told Lawrence Steefel that “I want to grasp things with the mind the way the penis is grasped by the vagina.”

Josh said...

thank you.

Sarah Schermerhorn said...

I believe a persons taste can change. The art you are attracted to as a child is most likely very different from your taste as an adult. It is the same with acquiring different tastes for foods or for people. The more you experience, the more open you are to numerous sets of possibilities.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the others. Taste changes when you start to understand new art, but I still dont like Duchamps (sorry!) I think most of his art is tasteless.I don't believe that's good art. It's not a matter of modern art. I particularly don't like him. I don't consider art an urinal turned around and place in an art gallery. I'm with the critic that said that was not art. This is only my opinion.
Heidi

Dominic Roarke said...

Someone mentioned the question of "taste" as in good or bad, or "tasteless". I think this brings up an important point-whether or not a work can be considered "art" is a separate question from whether is it good or bad art. Bad wine, for example, is still wine...but on the other hand, if its too far gone, and has basically become vinegar, is it no longer "wine"?
I am less and less personally interested in continued viewing of art that has a negative or even neutral emotional impact on me; but nonetheless I can still study it, as art, for technique, insight into the producer's psyche, or cultural insights. So again, the point is that qualifying a work as art is a distinct issue from the quality of the work. But then again there is the wine/vinegar analogy...

anita said...

i agree with dominic. qualifying something as art does not include "tasteful" or "tasteless" in its definition as art.

he also brings up a good analogy: wine/vinegar.
i think that in the case of wine/vinegar...i'm sure it has to have some level of fermentation? which can be measured?
if that's the case, then that could be applied to art...which brings us again to defining what art is...unless that analogy can't be applied to art in the case that art can be and is anything..?

naomi Witt said...

Who's works are who's between Duchamp and Hirst? I can comment of an artists works as a whole with out knowing who's are whos.

Natalia said...

yes, I think tastes can change since life consists of constant changes and transitions that allow us to explore new and interesting things. experiencing a change of taste is a great opportunity for learning and acquiring new perspectives. As I learn how to find a way to my personal taste I have discovered a diveristy of styles. This is a great advantage which is essential to the process of my artistic growth

Natalia said...

I like Duchamp because he has an authentic and unique style which allows to explore art in a different way. Art can be found in the most insignificant things, everything depends on your mind and creativity

A.T. said...

Naomi: It's all Duchamp and Hirst.

art106 said...

From the bottom up the first three are Duchamp's; the rest are Hirst's.

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